[Sneap] Focus resistor, Pd leak on AN2500

jim starkj at execulink.com
Sat Sep 29 22:59:59 EDT 2007


Re: [Sneap] Focus resistor, Pd leak on AN2500 Chris
  I think they are 10 Kv as you mentioned, 10 W, very stable and live forever. I think we had a box of them at Mac still in the old column resistor casings used in the original KN machine 1954 vintage they used to use a string of them. Years ago I made holders to extend the old FN yellow stick 400M resistors to fit a KN at Defense in Ottawa. They were surplus to us as we had changed to the caddock serpentine design so we manufactured the old ones that had not degraded very much for that machine, and it many years later, is still running reliably at 3MV 
  See you all at SNEAP.
 Cheers Jim
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris Westerfeldt 
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  Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:09 AM
  Subject: Re: [Sneap] Focus resistor, Pd leak on AN2500


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  Thanks Jim.  For the younger crowd out there - I just happen to have a box of SS White resistors.  Here is what Jim is talking about - see attachment.
  They are molded composition resistors.  The hexagonal body is 1-1/2" long.  I don't know what the actual voltage rating for these was
  but it must have been around 10 KV - Jim , do you know any details?  The JN resistors I posted are full of these ( they have been spoken for by the way).
  - Chris
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  From: jim <starkj at execulink.com>
  Reply-To: Symposium of Northeastern Accelerator Personnel <sneap at tunl.duke.edu>
  Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:23:36 -0400
  To: Symposium of Northeastern Accelerator Personnel <sneap at tunl.duke.edu>
  Subject: Re: [Sneap] Focus resistor, Pd leak on AN2500

  The ATF-SNEAP 2006 meeting was held in Australia and information is available at:
  http://www.ansto.gov.au/nugeo/conference/private/ATF_SNEAP.htm

  ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

  The SNEAP 2007 meeting will be hosted by Brigham Young University in Salt Lake City Utah. The meeting web site is located at:
  http://webpub.byu.net/wsd/.
  The 41st SNEAP Conference
  Brigham Young University
  October 7 - 11, 2007

  Please note:
  DUE TO THE ORIGINAL ANNOUNCEMENT BEING LOST IN CYBER-SP[ACE, THE
  SUBMISSION DATE HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO September 15th
   
  Call for Papers: 

  Brigham Young University in sponsoring the 41st Conference of the
  Symposium of North Eastern Accelerator Personnel (SNEAP) on October 7-
  11, 2007. The conference will be held at the Embassy Suites Hotel in
  Salt Lake City, Utah.

  The SNEAP Conference is directed toward scientists and technical staff
  who are involved in developing, upgrading, and operating electrostatic
  accelerators. Further information about the conference is available at
  the conference website:
   

  http://webpub.byu.net/wsd.


  We invite presentations on topics relating to accelerator design,
  operation, and improvement, and to unresolved problems with accelerator
  systems. Please send a title and abstract of your proposed presentations
  to sneap at byu.edu by September 15.
   
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  Lawrence Rees      sneap at byu.edu

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   Hi Stuart
    Well going back in time for me to palladium leaks, the common failure was poisoning of the palladium from bad gas or leaks to the palladium  when switched off SF6 for us leaking into the source then back to leak I suspect, which gives you no leak rate, or cracking the palladium which can leave you with a small leak until heated which rises rapidly or flooding your source with a small amount of heat applied.As to the leak rate when not heated palladium or T.M. leaks, the leak detectors we had at the time would not show much of anything not to say there wasn't gas coming through, as we could see in the colour of the strike while in the machine. Not much help with that.  To the resisitor. We used old carbon resistors and never found them to devalue to my knowledge. Years ago people had lots of old parts around, they are not as readily availble anymore. Anyone who has old SS White resistors should list them with SNEAP they are always useful.
     Good Luck


    ----- Original Message ----- 
     
    From:  Van Deusen,  Stuart B <mailto:sbvande at sandia.gov>  
     
    To: SNEAP at tunl.duke.edu 
     
    Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:08  AM
     
    Subject: [Sneap] Focus resistor, Pd leak  on AN2500
     

    The ATF-SNEAP 2006 meeting was held in Australia and  information is available at:
    http://www.ansto.gov.au/nugeo/conference/private/ATF_SNEAP.htm

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The  SNEAP 2007 meeting will be hosted by Brigham Young University in Salt Lake  City Utah. The meeting web site is located at:
    http://webpub.byu.net/wsd/.
    The 41st  SNEAP Conference
    Brigham Young University
    October 7 - 11,  2007

    Please note:
    DUE TO THE ORIGINAL ANNOUNCEMENT BEING LOST IN  CYBER-SP[ACE, THE
    SUBMISSION DATE HAS BEEN EXTENDED TO September  15th
     
    Call for Papers: 

    Brigham Young University in  sponsoring the 41st Conference of the
    Symposium of North Eastern  Accelerator Personnel (SNEAP) on October 7-
    11, 2007. The conference will  be held at the Embassy Suites Hotel in
    Salt Lake City, Utah.

    The  SNEAP Conference is directed toward scientists and technical staff
    who are  involved in developing, upgrading, and operating  electrostatic
    accelerators. Further information about the conference is  available at
    the conference  website:
     

    http://webpub.byu.net/wsd.


    We invite  presentations on topics relating to accelerator design,
    operation, and  improvement, and to unresolved problems with accelerator
    systems. Please  send a title and abstract of your proposed presentations
    to sneap at byu.edu  by September 15.
     
    Contacts:
    Scott  Daniel       wsd at byu.edu
    Lawrence  Rees      sneap at byu.edu
     

     

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    Hello all 
     

    The output from the focus power supply on an AN2500  goes through a resistor on its way to being clipped to the focus plane on the  column.  The HVEC circuit diagram shows this as a 2 Mohm resistor.   When I started operating my machine 11 years ago, it was equipped with a  string of 2W carbon composition resistors totaling about 11Mohm.  I  recently managed to blow these resistors up (probably by arcing over) by  running the focus voltage too high while the machine was in normal  operation.  I replaced the string of carbon composition resistors with a  single thick carbon film resistor, rated at 5W and 20 KV.  I find that  after some use, the value of the resistor drops, in the most recent case by  almost half.  I don't really understand what is happening to the  resistor, and if it will ultimately fail open or not.


    My question is, what do you all put in when you  replace this resistor? 
     

    A second question concerns the palladium leak used  for hydrogen in the AN2500 (and I'm sure other machines as well).  Does  anyone have experience with these leaks failing, and if so, what is the  failure mode?  On both this leak and the thermo mechanical leak used for  He, what is the expected leak rate when a good leak is fully  "closed"?


    Thank you for your help. 
     

    Stuart Van Deusen 

     

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